Outdoor Fireplaces and Fire Pits in Cicero
A fire feature is a foundation, and in Cicero the depth it reaches is the town's number, not the state's.
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Fire features in Cicero, and who sets the footing
Cicero names fireplaces on its list of work that needs a building permit, and does not name a patio at grade. So the fire feature is the part of an outdoor room that goes through the town, and the seating and paving around it usually does not. Ask about the footing early: a fireplace is a foundation, and the depth it has to reach is set by the town, not by the state.

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What to settle before building in Cicero
Cicero is the wettest ground we build on. 59.5 percent of the mapped soil in the town is classed poorly, somewhat poorly or very poorly drained, and only 6.2 percent is well drained. The largest single map unit is Niagara silt loam, which carries a seasonal high water table about 12 inches down from December through May.
The month decides the specification
Footing concrete has its own cold weather rules, separate from the mortar above it, and fresh concrete that freezes can lose more than half the strength it was meant to reach. A late footing pour is the part of this job that cannot be corrected later.
What is behind and beneath the work
A fire feature is a foundation with a fire in it. New York publishes no statewide or county frost depth at all, the code column is blank, and your own municipality fills the number in, which is why two honest masons can quote very differently and both be right.
What to ask whoever quotes
Ask two things: what footing depth the town requires, and what size the fire opening is going to be. State rules cap a lawful open fire at under 3 feet high and under 4 feet across.
The Cicero rules that apply here
In the Town of Cicero, 59.5 percent of the mapped soil area is classed poorly drained, somewhat poorly drained or very poorly drained, and 6.2 percent is classed well drained. The single largest map unit is Niagara silt loam on 0 to 4 percent slopes at about 28.6 percent of the town, followed by Collamer silt loam at about 12.2 percent and Carlisle muck, a very poorly drained organic soil, at about 12.0 percent.
Source: United States Department of Agriculture, Natural Resources Conservation Service, Soil Survey Geographic Database for Onondaga County New York, survey area NY067, queried through the Soil Data Access service, accessed 2026-09-14
Niagara silt loam, the second most extensive soil in Onondaga County and the dominant soil across the northern towns, carries a seasonal high water table with its top at about 31 centimeters, roughly 12 inches, below the surface, and the county soil data records that condition for December, January, February, March, April and May. Rhinebeck silt loam has the same 31 centimeter figure. Kendaia silt loam is shallower at about 20 centimeters, roughly 8 inches. For comparison, Collamer silt loam is about 54 centimeters, roughly 21 inches, and Honeoye silt loam about 76 centimeters, roughly 30 inches.
Source: United States Department of Agriculture, Natural Resources Conservation Service, Soil Survey Geographic Database for Onondaga County New York, survey area NY067, queried through the Soil Data Access service, accessed 2026-09-14
Both of the fast-growing northern towns name fireplaces on their list of work requiring a building permit and neither names a patio. The Town of Clay lists new buildings, all additions and alterations, mobile homes, garages and barns, pools, sheds and storage buildings, decks and porches, fences, signs, fireplaces, stoves and inserts, and demolition. The Town of Cicero lists decks, porches and garages, fireplaces, pellet stoves and wood stoves, storage sheds no matter the size, fences, swimming pools, and structural, plumbing or electrical alterations, and requires a permit before excavation or filling of more than 10 cubic yards. Cicero also requires a Floodplain Development Permit for any work in a 100 year flood zone, including work that would not otherwise need a permit.
Source: Town of Clay, New York, Department of Planning and Development, Building Permits Information, and Town of Cicero, New York, Department of Zoning and Planning, forms and permits, accessed 2026-09-14
National Flood Insurance Program figures in the county hazard mitigation plan annexes show how differently water behaves across the northern towns. The Town of Cicero has 180 active policies and 153 claims paid totalling about 1.44 million dollars. The Town of Clay has 93 policies and 49 claims paid totalling 455,606 dollars, and no repetitive loss or severe repetitive loss properties. North Syracuse village has 4 policies and has had no claims paid at all, a total of zero dollars. Solvay village has 3 policies and 6 claims paid totalling 10,957 dollars, and East Syracuse village has 9 policies and 12 claims paid totalling 223,722 dollars.
Source: Onondaga County, New York, 2025 Hazard Mitigation Plan, Town of Cicero Annex, Town of Clay Annex and Village of North Syracuse Annex, Onondaga County Department of Planning, accessed 2026-09-14
Ranked by the share of housing units built in 2000 or later, the era in which adhered stone veneer and segmental paver hardscape became the dominant new masonry products, the places of this metro spread very widely. Radisson, the census place inside the Town of Clay, leads at 32.4 percent, followed by the Town of Lysander at 25.8 percent, the Town of Van Buren at 21.9 percent, Baldwinsville village at 20.1 percent, the Town of Cicero at 19.1 percent, the Town of Clay at 15.4 percent, the Town of Camillus at 15.2 percent, the Town of Manlius at 11.6 percent, the Town of Marcellus at 11.3 percent, the Town of Skaneateles at 11.2 percent, Marcellus village at 9.9 percent, the Town of DeWitt at 8.7 percent, Skaneateles village at 8.4 percent, Fayetteville village at 8.1 percent, the Town of Salina at 7.0 percent, the City of Syracuse at 6.4 percent, Camillus village at 6.4 percent, Liverpool village at 6.1 percent, North Syracuse village at 4.7 percent, Manlius village at 4.5 percent, and both East Syracuse village and Solvay village at 0.0 percent. The county figure is 11.6 percent.
Source: US Census Bureau, American Community Survey 2020-2024 5-year estimates, table B25034 Year Structure Built and table B25035 Median Year Structure Built, accessed 2026-09-14
There is no state-wide or county-wide frost depth figure in the New York code. Section R301.2 states that additional criteria shall be established by the local jurisdiction and set forth in Table R301.2(1), and the table's own footnote for the frost line depth column reads: the jurisdiction shall fill in the frost line depth column with the minimum depth of footing below finish grade. The column is published blank.
Source: 2020 Residential Code of New York State, Section R301.2 and Table R301.2(1), Climatic and Geographic Design Criteria, via UpCodes, accessed 2026-09-14
New York's own code agency confirms it. Technical Bulletin TB-1009-RCNYS from the Department of State Division of Building Standards and Codes states, under Subject to damage from Frost Line Depth, that the local jurisdiction shall provide the minimum depth of footing below finish grade, and that the considerations a local jurisdiction can use when developing its frost line depth include, but are not limited to, air freezing index, soil type, water table depth, local historical data and field experience. The bulletin also notes that where an authority having jurisdiction spans multiple municipalities the data should be filled out for each municipality individually.
Source: New York State Department of State, Division of Building Standards and Codes, Technical Bulletin TB-1009-RCNYS, Requirements for Completing Table R301.2(1) in the 2020 Residential Code of New York State, accessed 2026-09-14
Section R403.1.4.1 carries three exceptions to the frost protection requirement. Protection is not required for free-standing accessory structures with an area of 600 square feet or less of light-frame construction with an eave height of 10 feet or less; nor for free-standing accessory structures with an area of 400 square feet or less of other than light-frame construction with an eave height of 10 feet or less; and decks not supported by a dwelling need not be provided with footings that extend below the frost line.
Source: 2020 Residential Code of New York State, Chapter 4, Foundations, via UpCodes, accessed 2026-09-14
New York caps the size of a legal outdoor fire. The Department of Environmental Conservation states that campfires, small cooking fires, or any other outdoor fire less than 3 feet in height and 4 feet in length, width or diameter are allowed, that all fires must consist of only charcoal or dry, clean, untreated and unpainted wood, that the burning of brush is prohibited from March 16 through May 14, and that towns, villages, cities and counties can pass ordinances that are stricter than Part 215. The underlying regulation, 6 NYCRR 215.3(c), permits small fires used for cooking and camp fires provided that only charcoal or untreated wood is used as fuel and the fire is not left unattended until extinguished.
Source: New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Open Burning, and 6 NYCRR section 215.3, Exceptions and restricted burning, via the Cornell Legal Information Institute, accessed 2026-09-14
The footing concrete under new masonry has its own cold weather rules. The National Ready Mixed Concrete Association defines cold weather as a period when the average daily temperature is below 40 degrees Fahrenheit for more than three consecutive days and the air temperature is not above 50 degrees for more than half of any 24 hour period. It states that fresh concrete freezes if its temperature falls below about 25 degrees Fahrenheit, that the potential strength of frozen concrete can be reduced by more than 50 percent and it will not be durable, and that concrete should be protected from freezing until it reaches 500 pounds per square inch, about two days after placement.
Source: National Ready Mixed Concrete Association, Concrete in Practice 27, Cold Weather Concreting, accessed 2026-09-14
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Fire feature questions from Cicero
What does Cicero require before a fire feature goes in?
The Town of Cicero lists fireplaces among the work needing a building permit and does not list a patio at grade. For a fire feature the consequence is that the footing depth comes from your municipality, because New York publishes no figure of its own.
How large can an outdoor fire lawfully be in New York?
State rules cap a lawful open outdoor fire at under 3 feet high and under 4 feet in length, width or diameter, burning charcoal or dry clean untreated unpainted wood only, and a local ordinance can be stricter. Anything wider than 4 feet falls outside that exception. Worth settling before a design is agreed: the dimension is trivial to change on a drawing and expensive to change once it is built.
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